It was an accurate shot from a distance. What was the guy behind Charlie Kirk doing hand signals about? How did the bullet not hit him also? Why did someone not involved get apprehended at first? Was it to give the assassin time to get away? Why was the set up not scoped for sniper positions and moved? Doesn't seem like a random nutter was the culprit to me - too slick. The CIA? A hitman?
The CIA! G*ddamnit! There is hope for America yet. Lunatics right and left have the CIA in common as the great villain, and maybe we can have an uneasy peace over that.
We hear that Jack the Martyr was appalled by the CIA, and the CIA dealt with him about that. And do you know what? Jack the Martyr WAS furious with the CIA, not because he abhorred their willingness to be violent and their delight in skulduggery. Kennedy geeked out on the James Bond saga, remember?
Jack the Martyr was furious with the CIA because the CIA wasn't violent and skulduggerous enough. His primary short term military project was the decapitation of the Castro regime. He had expected the CIA knew what they were doing at the time of The Bay of Pigs invasion, and was livid to find that he had been mistaken. And yes, he surely did wield the executioner's ax a little. He said to one of the condemned, "If we had the English system and I were Prime Minister, I'd have to resign. We don't. We have a President. So, you're the one who is going to be going."
The effort to get Castro was put under the control of Attorney General Robert F Kennedy. It was given a name, Operation Mongoose. Two and a half years of frustration and a near nuclear war over Russian missiles in Cuba later, the CIA thought it might have found a serious man who could arrange the assassination of Castro. The Paris station chief had been meeting with the guy when word came that Kennedy had been shot.
But I suppose the CIA is official call girl of conspiracists of every inclination. She can be made into whatever you want her to be.
Can't add anything useful or (attempt to say) something profound.
All I can add is this is not isolated to the USA; this is a trend all over the Western world. Chaotic acts of targeted political violence made possible via decades of dehumanisation-propaganda from the usual suspects.
Who needs hit-squads and all the messy paper-trails when you can just weaponise the people you have made sure cosicety no longer lock up or execute?
It is difficult to say at this stage what is happening. My money is on someone convinced by the traditional media Kirk is an extreme fascist ideologue intent on genocide. Or some equivalent. Fascist of course is meant in the Antifa sense of a distorted caricature of an evil person. I suspect it was a lone gunman, although it was quite a shot if that is the case.
The media have a lot to answer for in most Western countries.
According to Crowder who claims to have a source in the ATF on this, it was a trans-activist that shot Kirk, using a Mauser .30-06. The source said the rifle had been found close by the shooter's path of escape, wrapped in a towel and thrown into a bush.
And casings/unifred rounds were engraved with trans-slogans/symbols.
Sounds almost too pat, but there's no measuring rod for madness and magic thinking, and since either or both underpins the po-mo-left-trans-et cetera people so engraving "spells" on bullets is logical.
200 yards is nothing to hit an essentially stationary target with a 30.06. I had basic rifle marksmanship in the army 35 years ago, and consistently hit pop-up targets at 300 meters, and 200, and 100, and 50, and 25, in random order. On qualification day I hit 35 out of 40, one shy of expert.
They taught me the technique in 2 weeks.
I know elk hunters who have made kills out to 800 yards, in the mountains - not a flat trajectory shot.
It takes only elementary training with long arms to make a person able to hit a man-sized target at 200 yards. The top end snipers shoot at 10+ times that range.
There is no need to suppose any special training at all for the assassin, none.
It was an easy shot, that the shooter almost blew anyway. The neck strike had to be a really bad miss. A couple of inches more to the right, and it would've been a clean miss.
A moderately competent marksman would have made a head or centre mass shot st that range. The neck hit reveals very poor marksmanship skills by the shooter, hence indicating an amateur shooter, not a skilled marksman.
You're forgetting the crowd. The shooter managed to time that shot in order to make the kill without hitting anyone else. That either takes skill or a lot of luck. One shot. One hit. In a crowd.
The shooter was firing from a rooftop, yes? With that kind of elevation, I’d bet he had a clean sight picture over intervening obstacles.
It’s really not that hard to make a 200 yard shot on an essentially stationary man-sized target.
Unfortunately in this case, this is what rifles are made for, hitting targets at distance. No one who has been through army basic training couldn’t have made the shot. The pop-up targets stay exposed for various lengths of time, 3 to 6 seconds if my memory serves. So you’re transitioning between 25 and 300 meters with targets you’ve only got a few seconds to engage. Some guys shot 40/40. This is all using iron sights, not an optic. It’s not easy, but basic technique gets the job done.
Presumably, the shooter had time to get set, acquire the target, and shoot from a supported rest.
In three hours on the range, I could teach you what you need to know to be hitting targets out to 200 meters all day long; just from memory of what I was taught 35 years ago. Practice the fundamentals and shoot on a pop-up range for several hours a day for a week, and I’d bet you could qualify to the level you’d need to become a soldier. It’s a remarkably easy skill to develop.
They're saying he shot from a rooftop, although Matt Bracken questioned that claim, saying the jaw should have been chipped if the shooter was elevated.
That level of detail, clipping a jaw or not, is kinda beside the point. Am I right that it was a .3006 that was found, as well as the spent casing and some loose rounds? That’s a hunting rifle. 200 yards is just not the kind of distance that requires any more than the skill any hunter or army buck private has.
As I said, I could teach you how to do it in a matter of hours.
As the old saying goes, it takes 47 muscles to frown, 12 to smile, but only 3 for a proper trigger squeeze.
I’m nobody special with long arms, and I haven’t shot in years, but given a properly sighted rifle I could hit a man sized target from 200 yards any day of the week.
Maybe that was the gun that was used or maybe it's a plant. Who knows? And while I'm nobody special with long arms or handguns, I live on a farm and own a couple of guns that I use for varmints, for butchering and to put down sick animals.
On another comments section, I was reading mixed opinions on that, with many people with shooting experience claiming it wouldn't be that difficult. But the single fatal shot under pressure, and the smooth escape afterwards, suggest a professional operation. My money is on multiple people involved, including one professional sniper. That may have been a government-level hit.
I was listening to a discussion among retired military men last night that included Steve Murray and Matt Bracken. Bracken thought it was unlikely that the shot was fired from an elevated position because it didn't clip the jaw.
I have no experience with guns since my childhood BB gun, but I’ve read that it was a ricochet from a strap on Kirk’s bulletproof vest, not a precisely aimed shot.
No, bullets do not bounce off bulletproof vests. When a bullet strikes a bulletproof vest, the impact energy is absorbed by the vest material and dispersed throughout, which stops the bullet from penetrating through to the body. However, the bullet itself becomes deformed or flattened on impact and stays lodged in the vest. It does not bounce off or ricochet away."
I didn’t say “bounce off” I said “ricochet”. That includes deflection. Like when a bullet hits at an angle. And the claim was that the bullet hit a strap, not the vest directly.
(of a ball, bullet, or other small object) to bounce off a surface:
Likewise, the excerpt from the article that I cited says, "It does not bounce off or ricochet away."
As for the straps, they're made from either nylon or polyester. A bullet that hit a strap would penetrate the body. It would not ricochet or bounce off.
Perhaps. It was someone who said he had watched the video. I didn’t, so I can’t say, but the point is that the idea that this was a professional hit job because of how good the shot was bears some cautious disbelief.
200 yards is a very standard distance for a rifle. Hardly in the “sniper” realm.
Added: in my opinion the shooter was aiming for the head or the chest and did had poor trigger control or the sights/scope wasn’t accurately zeroed (calibrated). Hitting the neck was probably not the intention, as it’s a small target between the head or the chest.
Bullet proof vests are only rated up to a certain caliber, a decent hunting rifle chambered in 30-06 or .308 Winchester would be able to penetrate the vest. The round wouldn’t go right through it, but there are other concerns such as spalling, where shards of the steel or ceramic plate within the vest cut through your body after impact.
You seem to know more than I do about bulletproof vests. The subject was brought up in several news articles that quoted "experts" regarding the neck shot and bulletproof vests. Wouldn't surprise me if that was a load of bs, considering what passes as journalism these days. Anyway, thanks for the information. I'll keep that in mind when dealing with people who think a bullet ricochet off the vest and hit Kirk in the neck.
Maybe he did train for years. Who knows? I can't comment on whether 200 yards is too much of a distance for an amateur. But my money is on a lone gunman, someone mentally disturbed.
Yes, I read NFR's take. Seems to me that this elusive tranny is a modern variation on the Oswald narrative. Guaranteed to create more division and therefore making the civilian population easier to manipulate. At least that's how it appears to me.
All due respect to the experts, but heads move up and down and side to side, and was the shooter perched center left or center right? I'd have thought the prefect shot, otherwise would have been center forehead.
It may be uncomfortable thinking that this might not have been a professional hit, as that would mean there's a lot more people who could potentially pull it off. I think we should assume the latter until the former is proven.
Thank you for expressing your voice of reason at this tumultuous moment of chaos and heartbreak. The hideous murder of the beautiful young refugee so newly immigrated to the U.S. and now this terrible assassination of a young, dynamic contemporary voice of reason, eradicated out of hatred, resentment and an evil ideology that permeates the left. How euphoric the left must be to see the photos that have been released of the suspected assassin, a young white male. Not a crazy black person. Not a trans woman. In other words, not one of them. Or maybe they are disappointed that it might be someone outside their cult of evil. I don't know. The left is a scourge against normalcy. Normalcy of which they are incapable.
I do think the people who claim they are possessed may be on to something. I generally dislike condemning whole groups, but the progressive left seem insane to me.
I was quite moved by Kirk's death. It got to me for some reason. Possibly because he has such young kids.
It will be interesting to see what comes of the manhunt.
I totally agree that the progressive left has become completely unhinged.
However, 'No doubt if we scour social media we may find some right-wing commentators saying unsound things...'
You don't have to 'scour' even Substack comments to find conservative elements talking about guns, shooting, Second Amendment, hanging, jailing…not to mention my personal non-favorite, revoking women's right to vote.
Most of my friends are good progressive Democrats, who seem completely blind to the increasing authoritarianism and violence among their tribe, even when concrete examples are pointed out. I'm just saying, we should not be similarly blind, even if we're not as wacko.
I agree. There are plenty on both sides calling for all sorts of silly things. But I don't really see conservative journalists or politicians calling for this, not even in jest.
I do think there is a quite different mentality at play. I also think conservatives are more sensitive to calls for extreme measures. As a rule they dislike government intrusion or heavy handed tactics.
Look at the reaction to the death of Iryna Zarutska and imagine had the races been swapped. We all know who does the rioting.
It was not an accurate shot. It was a terrible flub.
I regularly shoot bolt action rifles of the kind apparently used to kill Mr Kirk.
I'm a good but not great shot. I can fire a cold bore shot into a cigarette packet at 200m all day long.
Nobody would aim for his neck. One would aim for the head (sniper training), or centre mass (infantry training).
A head point of aim means the shooter missed low-right by about 6 inches. A centre mass point of aim means he missed high right by about 6 inches or more. Very few people would miss high right.
Either way, it was terribly dud marksmanship. Anybody espousing the view that this was a pro taking a difficult shot has no idea about how long guns work.
It is all a Hollywood fake. We need to develop a more sophisticated understanding of our created scripted news "reality"
The deep state are manipulating the public's perception of reality to create civil war so that they can remove our freedoms.
It is a filmed scripted assassination to drive American people to the brink of civil disorder. Watch out USA you are being destroyed by macabre propaganda and lies.
This is paranoid. While I can accept manipulation and even false flag operations, Charlie Kirk was evidently a real person with a wife and kids. He was only 31. Where is he going to hide for the next 60 years?
Few governments benefit from civil unrest. It is in fact something most countries work hard to avoid because governments tend to lose credibility quick. It is a losing strategy. Only conspiracists believe this.
There are much easier ways to erode freedom that do not involve these risks. A pandemic, for instance.
It was an accurate shot from a distance. What was the guy behind Charlie Kirk doing hand signals about? How did the bullet not hit him also? Why did someone not involved get apprehended at first? Was it to give the assassin time to get away? Why was the set up not scoped for sniper positions and moved? Doesn't seem like a random nutter was the culprit to me - too slick. The CIA? A hitman?
I am not convinced, although I am open to more evidence. Events like this cause confusion, including the old guy they picked up initially.
I am not sure it was slick. But time will tell as more information comes in.
I hate to say I had similar thoughts.
Time will tell. Maybe.
Antifa or Antifa adjacent.
The CIA! G*ddamnit! There is hope for America yet. Lunatics right and left have the CIA in common as the great villain, and maybe we can have an uneasy peace over that.
We hear that Jack the Martyr was appalled by the CIA, and the CIA dealt with him about that. And do you know what? Jack the Martyr WAS furious with the CIA, not because he abhorred their willingness to be violent and their delight in skulduggery. Kennedy geeked out on the James Bond saga, remember?
Jack the Martyr was furious with the CIA because the CIA wasn't violent and skulduggerous enough. His primary short term military project was the decapitation of the Castro regime. He had expected the CIA knew what they were doing at the time of The Bay of Pigs invasion, and was livid to find that he had been mistaken. And yes, he surely did wield the executioner's ax a little. He said to one of the condemned, "If we had the English system and I were Prime Minister, I'd have to resign. We don't. We have a President. So, you're the one who is going to be going."
The effort to get Castro was put under the control of Attorney General Robert F Kennedy. It was given a name, Operation Mongoose. Two and a half years of frustration and a near nuclear war over Russian missiles in Cuba later, the CIA thought it might have found a serious man who could arrange the assassination of Castro. The Paris station chief had been meeting with the guy when word came that Kennedy had been shot.
But I suppose the CIA is official call girl of conspiracists of every inclination. She can be made into whatever you want her to be.
Can't add anything useful or (attempt to say) something profound.
All I can add is this is not isolated to the USA; this is a trend all over the Western world. Chaotic acts of targeted political violence made possible via decades of dehumanisation-propaganda from the usual suspects.
Who needs hit-squads and all the messy paper-trails when you can just weaponise the people you have made sure cosicety no longer lock up or execute?
It is difficult to say at this stage what is happening. My money is on someone convinced by the traditional media Kirk is an extreme fascist ideologue intent on genocide. Or some equivalent. Fascist of course is meant in the Antifa sense of a distorted caricature of an evil person. I suspect it was a lone gunman, although it was quite a shot if that is the case.
The media have a lot to answer for in most Western countries.
According to Crowder who claims to have a source in the ATF on this, it was a trans-activist that shot Kirk, using a Mauser .30-06. The source said the rifle had been found close by the shooter's path of escape, wrapped in a towel and thrown into a bush.
And casings/unifred rounds were engraved with trans-slogans/symbols.
Sounds almost too pat, but there's no measuring rod for madness and magic thinking, and since either or both underpins the po-mo-left-trans-et cetera people so engraving "spells" on bullets is logical.
48 hour rule-caveats of course.
I am suspicious of it all. Including patsies being blamed. But the truth will out.
NFR muses on what might be going on:
https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk
Looks like the work of a professional sniper to me. Someone would have to train for years to make a shot like that from 200 yards.
200 yards is nothing to hit an essentially stationary target with a 30.06. I had basic rifle marksmanship in the army 35 years ago, and consistently hit pop-up targets at 300 meters, and 200, and 100, and 50, and 25, in random order. On qualification day I hit 35 out of 40, one shy of expert.
They taught me the technique in 2 weeks.
I know elk hunters who have made kills out to 800 yards, in the mountains - not a flat trajectory shot.
It takes only elementary training with long arms to make a person able to hit a man-sized target at 200 yards. The top end snipers shoot at 10+ times that range.
There is no need to suppose any special training at all for the assassin, none.
This is the truth.
It was an easy shot, that the shooter almost blew anyway. The neck strike had to be a really bad miss. A couple of inches more to the right, and it would've been a clean miss.
A moderately competent marksman would have made a head or centre mass shot st that range. The neck hit reveals very poor marksmanship skills by the shooter, hence indicating an amateur shooter, not a skilled marksman.
You're forgetting the crowd. The shooter managed to time that shot in order to make the kill without hitting anyone else. That either takes skill or a lot of luck. One shot. One hit. In a crowd.
The shooter was firing from a rooftop, yes? With that kind of elevation, I’d bet he had a clean sight picture over intervening obstacles.
It’s really not that hard to make a 200 yard shot on an essentially stationary man-sized target.
Unfortunately in this case, this is what rifles are made for, hitting targets at distance. No one who has been through army basic training couldn’t have made the shot. The pop-up targets stay exposed for various lengths of time, 3 to 6 seconds if my memory serves. So you’re transitioning between 25 and 300 meters with targets you’ve only got a few seconds to engage. Some guys shot 40/40. This is all using iron sights, not an optic. It’s not easy, but basic technique gets the job done.
Presumably, the shooter had time to get set, acquire the target, and shoot from a supported rest.
In three hours on the range, I could teach you what you need to know to be hitting targets out to 200 meters all day long; just from memory of what I was taught 35 years ago. Practice the fundamentals and shoot on a pop-up range for several hours a day for a week, and I’d bet you could qualify to the level you’d need to become a soldier. It’s a remarkably easy skill to develop.
They're saying he shot from a rooftop, although Matt Bracken questioned that claim, saying the jaw should have been chipped if the shooter was elevated.
That level of detail, clipping a jaw or not, is kinda beside the point. Am I right that it was a .3006 that was found, as well as the spent casing and some loose rounds? That’s a hunting rifle. 200 yards is just not the kind of distance that requires any more than the skill any hunter or army buck private has.
As I said, I could teach you how to do it in a matter of hours.
As the old saying goes, it takes 47 muscles to frown, 12 to smile, but only 3 for a proper trigger squeeze.
I’m nobody special with long arms, and I haven’t shot in years, but given a properly sighted rifle I could hit a man sized target from 200 yards any day of the week.
That is what rifles are for.
Maybe that was the gun that was used or maybe it's a plant. Who knows? And while I'm nobody special with long arms or handguns, I live on a farm and own a couple of guns that I use for varmints, for butchering and to put down sick animals.
On another comments section, I was reading mixed opinions on that, with many people with shooting experience claiming it wouldn't be that difficult. But the single fatal shot under pressure, and the smooth escape afterwards, suggest a professional operation. My money is on multiple people involved, including one professional sniper. That may have been a government-level hit.
I am not convinced. Although impossible to tell at this stage.
Agreed. We'll see what time reveals.
I was listening to a discussion among retired military men last night that included Steve Murray and Matt Bracken. Bracken thought it was unlikely that the shot was fired from an elevated position because it didn't clip the jaw.
https://rumble.com/v6yqvzi-the-path-forward-the-roundtable.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp
That is an interesting observation. I am not sure how elevated the building was mind you.
Here is the official narrative so far...
https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooters-exact-pov-apparently-revealed-in-chilling-new-photos-that-show-his-snipers-nest/
I have no experience with guns since my childhood BB gun, but I’ve read that it was a ricochet from a strap on Kirk’s bulletproof vest, not a precisely aimed shot.
Do bullets bounce off bulletproof vests?
https://www.restonyc.com/do-bullets-bounce-off-bulletproof-vests/
"The Short Answer
No, bullets do not bounce off bulletproof vests. When a bullet strikes a bulletproof vest, the impact energy is absorbed by the vest material and dispersed throughout, which stops the bullet from penetrating through to the body. However, the bullet itself becomes deformed or flattened on impact and stays lodged in the vest. It does not bounce off or ricochet away."
I didn’t say “bounce off” I said “ricochet”. That includes deflection. Like when a bullet hits at an angle. And the claim was that the bullet hit a strap, not the vest directly.
You might want to invest in a dictionary.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/ricochet
ricochet
verb [ I ]
us /ˈrɪk·əˌʃeɪ/
(of a ball, bullet, or other small object) to bounce off a surface:
Likewise, the excerpt from the article that I cited says, "It does not bounce off or ricochet away."
As for the straps, they're made from either nylon or polyester. A bullet that hit a strap would penetrate the body. It would not ricochet or bounce off.
No point in wasting any more time with you, since it is evident that you just want to quibble. So you are muted.
What you read was nonsense.
Perhaps. It was someone who said he had watched the video. I didn’t, so I can’t say, but the point is that the idea that this was a professional hit job because of how good the shot was bears some cautious disbelief.
200 yards is a very standard distance for a rifle. Hardly in the “sniper” realm.
Added: in my opinion the shooter was aiming for the head or the chest and did had poor trigger control or the sights/scope wasn’t accurately zeroed (calibrated). Hitting the neck was probably not the intention, as it’s a small target between the head or the chest.
I concur. It was a poor shot that almost missed.
https://rumble.com/v6yqvzi-the-path-forward-the-roundtable.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
I believe Kirk was wearing a bulletproof vest. Did the assassin know this was the case?
Bullet proof vests are only rated up to a certain caliber, a decent hunting rifle chambered in 30-06 or .308 Winchester would be able to penetrate the vest. The round wouldn’t go right through it, but there are other concerns such as spalling, where shards of the steel or ceramic plate within the vest cut through your body after impact.
You seem to know more than I do about bulletproof vests. The subject was brought up in several news articles that quoted "experts" regarding the neck shot and bulletproof vests. Wouldn't surprise me if that was a load of bs, considering what passes as journalism these days. Anyway, thanks for the information. I'll keep that in mind when dealing with people who think a bullet ricochet off the vest and hit Kirk in the neck.
Under his t-shirt? FFS.
Not sure why you couldn't wear this under a t-shirt...
T-Shirt Vests
The ultimate in comfort and conceal-ability
http://www.bulletproofme.com/T-Shirt-Vests.html
That said, according to one report the FBI refused to confirm or deny that Kirk was wearing a bulletproof vest.
Maybe he did train for years. Who knows? I can't comment on whether 200 yards is too much of a distance for an amateur. But my money is on a lone gunman, someone mentally disturbed.
You may like NFR's take:
https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk
Yes, I read NFR's take. Seems to me that this elusive tranny is a modern variation on the Oswald narrative. Guaranteed to create more division and therefore making the civilian population easier to manipulate. At least that's how it appears to me.
That was a kill shot, perfectly executed.
It would certainly be plausible to use a transgender person as a fallguy. Easy target for the right to focus on.
All due respect to the experts, but heads move up and down and side to side, and was the shooter perched center left or center right? I'd have thought the prefect shot, otherwise would have been center forehead.
It may be uncomfortable thinking that this might not have been a professional hit, as that would mean there's a lot more people who could potentially pull it off. I think we should assume the latter until the former is proven.
Cops and soldiers are trained to aim for the chest for the obvious reasons.
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/aim-for-center-of-mass/
Then it really wasn’t perfect.
It was perfect if the assassin knew Kirk was wearing a bulletproof vest, especially since the neck doesn't move up and down or side to side.
It is not too far for an amateur. Not with a 30-06 and scope. It just requires practice.
That is interesting to know. Thanks. 200 yards doesn't seem unrealistic, particularly if lying prone on a roof for stability.
An experienced hunter could easily pull it off. And if you're nuts enough to contemplate this, your nerves are little issue.
https://rumble.com/v6yqvzi-the-path-forward-the-roundtable.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp
Thank you for expressing your voice of reason at this tumultuous moment of chaos and heartbreak. The hideous murder of the beautiful young refugee so newly immigrated to the U.S. and now this terrible assassination of a young, dynamic contemporary voice of reason, eradicated out of hatred, resentment and an evil ideology that permeates the left. How euphoric the left must be to see the photos that have been released of the suspected assassin, a young white male. Not a crazy black person. Not a trans woman. In other words, not one of them. Or maybe they are disappointed that it might be someone outside their cult of evil. I don't know. The left is a scourge against normalcy. Normalcy of which they are incapable.
I do think the people who claim they are possessed may be on to something. I generally dislike condemning whole groups, but the progressive left seem insane to me.
I was quite moved by Kirk's death. It got to me for some reason. Possibly because he has such young kids.
It will be interesting to see what comes of the manhunt.
I totally agree that the progressive left has become completely unhinged.
However, 'No doubt if we scour social media we may find some right-wing commentators saying unsound things...'
You don't have to 'scour' even Substack comments to find conservative elements talking about guns, shooting, Second Amendment, hanging, jailing…not to mention my personal non-favorite, revoking women's right to vote.
Most of my friends are good progressive Democrats, who seem completely blind to the increasing authoritarianism and violence among their tribe, even when concrete examples are pointed out. I'm just saying, we should not be similarly blind, even if we're not as wacko.
I agree. There are plenty on both sides calling for all sorts of silly things. But I don't really see conservative journalists or politicians calling for this, not even in jest.
I do think there is a quite different mentality at play. I also think conservatives are more sensitive to calls for extreme measures. As a rule they dislike government intrusion or heavy handed tactics.
Look at the reaction to the death of Iryna Zarutska and imagine had the races been swapped. We all know who does the rioting.
“We all know who does the rioting.”
Whoever the shooter turns out to be and what his motives were we can be assured of one thing. The Left will learn nothing.
I only hope the Right doesn't learn the wrong lesson.
This would be my assessment. It is all emotion, so learning isn't the goal. Emotional satisfaction is the goal.
It was not an accurate shot. It was a terrible flub.
I regularly shoot bolt action rifles of the kind apparently used to kill Mr Kirk.
I'm a good but not great shot. I can fire a cold bore shot into a cigarette packet at 200m all day long.
Nobody would aim for his neck. One would aim for the head (sniper training), or centre mass (infantry training).
A head point of aim means the shooter missed low-right by about 6 inches. A centre mass point of aim means he missed high right by about 6 inches or more. Very few people would miss high right.
Either way, it was terribly dud marksmanship. Anybody espousing the view that this was a pro taking a difficult shot has no idea about how long guns work.
It is all a Hollywood fake. We need to develop a more sophisticated understanding of our created scripted news "reality"
The deep state are manipulating the public's perception of reality to create civil war so that they can remove our freedoms.
It is a filmed scripted assassination to drive American people to the brink of civil disorder. Watch out USA you are being destroyed by macabre propaganda and lies.
This is paranoid. While I can accept manipulation and even false flag operations, Charlie Kirk was evidently a real person with a wife and kids. He was only 31. Where is he going to hide for the next 60 years?
Few governments benefit from civil unrest. It is in fact something most countries work hard to avoid because governments tend to lose credibility quick. It is a losing strategy. Only conspiracists believe this.
There are much easier ways to erode freedom that do not involve these risks. A pandemic, for instance.
If you watch it slowed down you can see the mechanism to pump blood operating under his t-shirt. This is used in movies all the time.
It has also been AI manipulated as his ring moves from one finger to another.
Please wake up. This is to bring in biometric surveillance and Digital ID.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW6SucM2X48&ab_channel=HivemindNation
There are easier ways to bring in Digital IDs. Civil unrest is too tricky, too unpredictable. It tends to harm governments.
These are not strong arguments. They are emotional ones. I do not subscribe to them, although I am well aware they want biometric surveillance.
Visually traumatising an entire nation is the way to emotionally manipulate.
I agree. But half the nation is celebrating Kirk's death. So they aren't traumatized.
It is fear that really makes people compliant. Get them scared.
Run along dummy. Nobody is buying what you're selling.
Wake up USA. You are being brought down by being traumatised by these fakers and their lies. Keep your freedoms and do not believe these monsters.