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Caroline's avatar

I was unaware of Morgoth, but have now subscribed. Streisand Effect working well.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Glad to hear it. He is a very reasonable voice, and not the hate figure the authorities would love him to be. Alas patriotism is now a crime in Britain.

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Susanne C.'s avatar

You will not regret it. He is extremely eloquent with a diverse range of topics. A very interested and therefore interesting mind.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

He is indeed.

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Gwyneth's avatar

“When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this infallible Sign; that the Dunces are all in Confederacy against him.”

- Jonathan Swift

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Quite. One day we will look back and laugh.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Laugh now. Demons hate ridicule.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Indeed they do. That's why memes drive them crazy.

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Gwyneth's avatar

"Meme them until they cry. Then meme them again."

- el gato malo

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Ha ha. I have seen that one.

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Caroline's avatar

I think the actual quote is, “Meme them until they cry, then make memes about them crying.”

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Gwyneth's avatar

You are correct. Thank you!

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The Plucky Welshman's avatar

"Doxxing exercises exist so the laptop class can efficiently file people into a convenient extremist bucket." This is typical of sociopaths who love pigeon holing people into neat little boxes before getting them to fight one another for their entertainment. I hate these kinds of people. My own take on this is here: https://thepluckywelshman.substack.com/p/morgoth-has-been-doxed

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Will check it out for sure.

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Susanne C.'s avatar

It was helpful to read this, this morning. I am on the autism spectrum and any kind of false accusation or persecution really upsets me with a kind of ongoing internal anxiety. Over the years Morgoth has become my favorite Substack writer, I’ve watched his prose improve until it is pitch perfect and I love the depth and breadth of his thoughts.

My husband even asked me if I was all right the day after I read him Morgoth’s essay. It is unusual for him to remember things I read to him, the injustice of it stayed with him.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

On the plus side there is an air of desperation about it all, including the need for smear tactics at all. Their argument and above all their policies are visibly failing. The powerful are rattled. That's why these hit pieces are so shrill. Where do they go from here? They can't jail the whole country.

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Susanne C.'s avatar

They know it has a chilling effect on the population. For every person they punish, how many do they silence? They fail clownishly but hold on to power.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

That only works up to a point before it destroys credibility. Many can see the decline in front of them. The things Morgoth discusses are talked about by many. That is their real problem.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

And it should stay with him, what was done to Morgoth is a grave injustice. It must not be allowed to fade away but should stay with us. Good on you madame to be reading his substack and this one.

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Susanne C.'s avatar

I have four adult sons and five young grandsons. Reading essays like these have helped me make sense of the world young white men face today. It seems like I went from a world in which race and ethnicity no longer mattered to a world in which they are all that matter in the course of ten years. Obama’s presidency really destroyed race relations in America, mass immigration in Europe.

Our family is multi ethnic. I myself am half English and half Syrian. My husband is German, we adopted biracial and Central American children. My daughter law is from China. I am not too worried about my half Asian granddaughter, but the future of five blond haired little boys is very concerning in this strange new world.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

It is culture that matters more than anything. Most countries have a culture and are entitled to maintain it. That may mean limited immigration of compatible people. The North East Asians do well in white countries, for example.

They have to use RACE because it is indelible. When people observe others do not belong they can roll out an argument that makes you look like a bigot rather than a concerned grandmother. It is effective. But it has ran its course. People see too much dysfunction for it to continue.

Plus whites are now denigrated in their own nations. That is wearing very thin indeed.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

I get that, speaking as someone who is French-Canadian, I went from not having to worry about finding work to being reviled, and glared at in job-interviews and otherwise taken advantage of by employers and coworkers and told ‘it’s that you’re not a minority’. Canada went from home to hostile territory in no time flat after 2013.

Thankfully there’s still work for one such as myself outside Canada. But I do worry for your grandchildren, will pray for them and your children and in-laws madame. Teaching English and soon French and History are useful skills and all along with video-editing and writing (mainly a novelist).

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

The manner in which they have comported themselves is disgusting. The educated class and ruling-mercantile class that have joined together are among the most repugnant in history. Morgoth did nothing wrong and is essentially harmless. Yet to a hostile, schizophrenic elite it seems that merely talking is threatening to them.

Won't be long now they'll resort to public violence against those who don't toe the party line.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I'm not so sure about that. They wish to maintain the veneer of civility, that it is all democratic. So they can't be too blatant.

Part of the rationale for doxxing is to attract the unhinged who may become lone gunmen and achieve such ends with no real connection to anyone. It definitely happens and is one reason why this practice is so toxic. Our cultural enemies do not play fair it would seem.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

I meant when that fails. When it happens that people no longer tolerate and refuse to cooperate.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Not sure. I am really not sure where it is all going.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

That’s fair, our leaders are insane.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I think they are too.

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JasonT's avatar

Quite right. They have no intellectually compelling argument, only volume and violence. For now it is volume, for now...

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Nor do they tackle other people's arguments. There was nothing in the Morgoth takedown except emotive language; fascist, racist etc. No attempt to reason, or even discuss his view points. They don't care. It is all resentment and hate.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

Too bad we can’t turn back the clock but what’s done is done, and we have only to make the best of what we can and to keep pushing back.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

We can never go back. But we can learn from the past and build a more sensible future.

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

Very true, very true.

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JasonT's avatar

I know there have been good reasons for anonymity, and may still be. The danger for US writers seems mostly behind us for the moment. I wonder what new devilry the enemies of free speech would develop if everyone identified themselves and removed the doxxing threat.

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Rikard's avatar

One of the people behind the doxxing is Patrik Hermansson (Morgoth names him in his text), a Swede who has worked for (or is still working for) EXPO, an organisation which functions as a state-funded suit&tie-front for Antifa. Many members of EXPO have a background in Antifa Sweden (Antifa is often called AFA in Sweden, the acronym has the same meaning), and many of them have quite heavy criminal records.

EXPO is used by mainstream media and academia as a source of "experts" on racism, fascism and so on to provide the mainstream with a false sheen of authority when they put out their outrageous propaganda, and fearmonger about "the rise of fascism" (and if that fails, nazism).

In reality EXPO is just that: an "NGO" that acts as hitmen for the Socialist Democrat party of Sweden, targetting (including physically - arson, abuse, harassment, vandalism, and assault are staples of EXPO's AFA-members; if you think of how Sturmabteilung functioned for the NSDAP, that's exactly how EXPO and AFA/Antifa functions) political opponents with smear campaigns and making police reports about anything they can dream up.

Hermansson is usually stationed in London, and came to fame in 2017 when he (25 at the time) wrote a piece about his "brace infiltration of the British neo-nazi movement".

I can't comment on Morgoth's stack, but I hope he sees this. It may well be worth his time to look into Hermansson and his ties with EXPO and AFA/Antifa, especially how people with Antifa-ties seems to pop up everywhere a regime needs hit pieces and riot-actors to give them an excuse.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Perhaps worth adding to Morgoth's piece. I don't believe he reads my Substack.

All very interesting information. Very incestuous too. My understanding of Antifa is their people often have a religious drive.

I do suspect it is all in decline, as disruptive and destructive as much of it is. The public can see where the country is going, and the veil of silence int he media is not helping them. They are reading people like Morgoth to try to make sense of their declining world. So I suspect the Nazi and fascist labelling just isn't having the impact it once did.

Deeply troubling times though.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

"Hometowns changed by rapid and large-scale immigration; long term economic prospects in terminal decline, made all the harder by sky-high inflation; local authorities increasingly unable to deliver basic services while we are told our number one focus must be a climate reckoning or the conflict in Gaza."

I don't want to downplay the obvious problems facing Westerners as our once civilized countries fall to pieces (all by design of our traitorous elites), but being concerned about the conflict in Gaza is not exactly none of our business.

The genocide the Israelis are perpetrating against them is of a nature unprecedented in recent history, and much of it is funded and supported by Western governments using tax money collected from us.

It's disgusting to watch communists and trannies pretending to support Palestinians in their embarrassing parades (and I call them parades, not protests, because that's what they are) but we shouldn't allow that to close our hearts to the innocents in Gaza. They have suffered enough.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

You misunderstand, or perhaps I was not clear. I have no problems with people showing concern for the plight of people overseas facing difficulties. But it is not the job of local councils to agonize over it. They are there to manage the mundane aspects of our locale. Trash collection, the homeless, local parks. That was the point, not really about the events in Gaza itself.

It is the placement of activists of whatever stripe in positions that require competency that bothers me. Hence the inappropriate announcements we are subjected to.

As for all and sundry enraged at the events in the Holy Land. Alas I suspect many are fair weather friends to the Palestinians. As far as I can tell a lot embrace it as a victim-oppressor narrative and care nothing for the region, its history or even its current problems. It is just the Current Thing to them. Their attention will soon move on.

Gaza has been earmarked as part of Greater Israel. I doubt it will survive. Our own leaders care nothing for us, and even less for people there. We know our governments are controlled by transnational elites with plans of their own.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

I wholeheartedly agree with you that many of the people who say they support Palestinians are the epitome of fair weather friends. Unlike them, I think the Palestinians want nothing more than to escape the yoke of victimhood - not celebrate it as a core aspect of their identity.

An awful lot of territory is "earmarked" to become part of Greater Israel - Lebanon, Jordan, much of Egypt, parts of Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia. There's a reason the Jews have a long history of being the most hated people on earth. I'm sure there's more than a handful of them in the Hope not Hate organization that doxxed Morgoth.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I do know one of the doxxers is a Swedish member of Antifa. They do other people's dirty work of course.

I think for Morgoth's followers none of it matters. I have no doubt he will win new subscribers, which is hilarious.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

Doxxing would be right up Antifa's alley. I would love it if the whole thing backfires on them and Morgoth does indeed expand his subscriber base. Hope Not Hate is such a despicable organization, getting in their cross-hairs is pretty much a badge of honour!!

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Boudicca's avatar

Morgoth is brilliant and I've never come across anything he writes or says as being 'hateful'. He's a realist and understands the peril we are in. I hope that the article brings him many more subscribers.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

It may well do. It could backfire. I suspect we are reaching that point where being doxxed is a badge of honour.

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Will Martin's avatar

Doxing as a Debut only works if you're In The GroupChats and have a patronage network already there. I don't believe it has such a limited effect as you think it does.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I think its time has passed. Their breathless denunciation is aimed at the layer of society that is wrecking everything they touch. It is inside the bubble stuff.

That said, its intent is to make life difficult for those targeted. The goal is to trigger second order consequences such as being fired etc. But I believe the public are bored of this. Their tricks no longer have potency. I think fewer people are wowed when they see someone labelled as a fascist etc.

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Will Martin's avatar

You can say that, but I can’t buy in. Good Things Don’t Happen.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Time will tell. But people grow exhausted with all these manipulations.

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