Petty crime is no threat to the regime, so no need to persecute offenders. Same with violent crimes against individuals, barring the wrong political slant to it (whether real, imagined or alleged for purposes of weaponisation as propaganda). Same again with robberies, b&e, car-theft/-jacking, and narcotics or prostitution.
At worst, a token effort will be made from time to time, but far more resources are used and are available for anything with either/or:
X) A clear political bent in opposition to, or not aligned with, the regime
Y) Tax evasion/fraud/avoidance
Z) Establishing successful alternatives to regime mandates, products, efforts, et c
Logically then, someone opposing the regime must make a very conscious choice whether to do so openly and risk martyrdom, or clandestinely and risk be mistaken for a common criminal.
On the other hand:
If the regime is illegal and/or illegitimate and unjust and outright hostile to its people? XYZ then becomes acts of resistance, even rebellion no matter what. And forcing by very simple means, such as passively withdrawing support (in any way) for the regime, said regime to expend resources with an ever-increasing cost is the surest way to cause it to defeat itself.
Remember, the USSR fell largely thanks to its own actions. Why work, when it doesn't matter? Why do your best when you get nothing for it? Why contribute, when smarmy cheeky chinless wonders slither past you anyway?
Recommended reading for inspiration and ideas re: state of mind of the active passively resisting:
Yes I agree. They do care about crimes that affect them. But one of the problems with graffiti is its visibility. It also makes them look weak. They can't keep up. More are now asking why we are paying taxes if this is the end result.
Good idea, except that our betters don't care about graffiti. They think it's kind if cute, as long as it is in our neighborhoods and not theirs. They do care about dissent, that isn't cute and must be stamped out, by any means necessary.
I went to Manchester recently for the first time and was shocked by just how much graffiti was present on both old and new buildings even the roller shutters of shops were covered from top to bottom. That being said some graffiti really is art, provocative and beautiful, clever, satirical and often funny but these are the rare exceptions.
I'm of the mind that these surveillance systems should be turned inwards, shining the light on the doings of the politicians, the police, the MPs, and those residing in #10 Downing Street. Don't ya think?
Do away with all state surveillance by destroying the state and replacing it with a newer, better form of gubbamint. As long as the tools exist, someone in gubbamint will use them, even if in secret. Once they use them, they will want to use them more and add more tools. Gubbamint is a serious problem. Best to deal with the gubbamint as brutally as it deals with you.
True, you can destroy one government and another will take its place, and become corrupt in its time. Human nature has not changed within the bounds of recorded history, which is why the Greek philosophers remain relevant.
Ok…it’s your expectations that are the problem here: where is it written that gubbamint will never go corrupt? Corruption is like cockroach infestations…you spray, get most of ‘em, eventually they come back. You spray again. That is how it works with gubbamint. You revolt, set up a new one, it rots in time, it gets oppressive, you revolt, etc. It’s just time to spray for the political roaches, that’s all. They’ll come back; it’s what they do. The future will deal with that problem. Our problem is right now, and brother! do we need to spray!
As far as changing human nature: you are wrong there too. Human beans are now quantitatively less violent than at any time in recorded History. We are more prosperous than any previous point in History. Human nature CAN change. We have to change our environment and our technology to change us, but it obviously works. We broke the hunter-gatherer cycles with agrarian revolution, we broke the farming cycles with the industrial revolution, we are breaking the industrial cycles with hyper-efficient digital tech. With the breaking of each cycle, we alter the culture that went with it. We are improving morally all the time. Consider how violent a medieval knight or samurai was…don’t bow low enough quickly enough and you get clobbered. Now, no one does that any more. Less violent, more reasoned.
We ended our cruise through coastal Norway, Shetland, and Orkney in London. After a lovely river cruise which highlighted the bridges, landmarks and multi million pound apartments along the Thames I was shocked by the amount of graffiti everywhere in what were obviously not poor areas if the homes and cars were any indication. Our taxi ride to the V&A and our trip next day to the airport was depressing and gritty. Every available surface was covered. The worst areas of Philadelphia, my own native city, do not compare in terms of graffiti.
As long as the graffttists are defacing Jew socialist brutalist architecture with something reasonably organic, colorful and complex, I say let them have it, it's an improvement. They should not however be allowed to deface historic buildings.
Agree 100% about ubiquitous surveillance that is selectively enforced only against people who resist the regime. I feel bad for you Britbongs but know we are only a couple of steps behind you, and the U.S. and we will be fully caught up on the Orwellian society if we "elect" the cackling witch.
I am afraid that most of the electorate are too poorly educated to realize how much of a difference the first amendment makes and why it needs to be defended against the ignorant and apathetic. Advertisements during football games, about the only broadcast media people actually watch, showing what is happening in England now and why it can’t happen here, at least while we have it, would be a good idea.
People keep moving to red states from blue states and then voting to bring all the things they ran away from into the red states. They changed Colorado this way and are working on Arizona and Texas. The future of the first amendment is bleak if people don’t wake up.
"Graffiti is widespread in Britain. It defaces everything from temporary site fencing to national heritage landmarks.
It is vandalism, the damaging of property; an illegal activity no matter how colourful some find the end result.
The scale of graffiti in Britain’s towns and cities is a sign of general decline."
This is exactly the reason why it is not stopped. The draining and demoralizing psychological effect of constant graffiti IS what Cabal wants.
You could be right there. It is demoralizing for sure.
Petty crime is no threat to the regime, so no need to persecute offenders. Same with violent crimes against individuals, barring the wrong political slant to it (whether real, imagined or alleged for purposes of weaponisation as propaganda). Same again with robberies, b&e, car-theft/-jacking, and narcotics or prostitution.
At worst, a token effort will be made from time to time, but far more resources are used and are available for anything with either/or:
X) A clear political bent in opposition to, or not aligned with, the regime
Y) Tax evasion/fraud/avoidance
Z) Establishing successful alternatives to regime mandates, products, efforts, et c
Logically then, someone opposing the regime must make a very conscious choice whether to do so openly and risk martyrdom, or clandestinely and risk be mistaken for a common criminal.
On the other hand:
If the regime is illegal and/or illegitimate and unjust and outright hostile to its people? XYZ then becomes acts of resistance, even rebellion no matter what. And forcing by very simple means, such as passively withdrawing support (in any way) for the regime, said regime to expend resources with an ever-increasing cost is the surest way to cause it to defeat itself.
Remember, the USSR fell largely thanks to its own actions. Why work, when it doesn't matter? Why do your best when you get nothing for it? Why contribute, when smarmy cheeky chinless wonders slither past you anyway?
Recommended reading for inspiration and ideas re: state of mind of the active passively resisting:
Brave Soldier Svejk, by Jaroslav Hasek.
Yes I agree. They do care about crimes that affect them. But one of the problems with graffiti is its visibility. It also makes them look weak. They can't keep up. More are now asking why we are paying taxes if this is the end result.
This suggests that an easy solution is political graffiti of the unwanted kind.
It's not that difficult either. Spray cans are easy to get, and stencils or templates can easily be pre-cut from old cardboard boxes or other trash.
2-3 guys, first one holds the stencil, second one sprays, third one feeds no. 2 cans in the pre-decided order and keeps a look-out.
That's for making real pictures. If it's just a tag saying: "Starmer snogs pedos" or something, it's a 30sec job for one bloke.
Most of Banksy's work is political graffiti of the unwanted kind.
Good idea, except that our betters don't care about graffiti. They think it's kind if cute, as long as it is in our neighborhoods and not theirs. They do care about dissent, that isn't cute and must be stamped out, by any means necessary.
I went to Manchester recently for the first time and was shocked by just how much graffiti was present on both old and new buildings even the roller shutters of shops were covered from top to bottom. That being said some graffiti really is art, provocative and beautiful, clever, satirical and often funny but these are the rare exceptions.
Some of it is indeed artistic. It is the disregard for private property that tells us about the decline. Plus the inability of councils to keep up.
I'm of the mind that these surveillance systems should be turned inwards, shining the light on the doings of the politicians, the police, the MPs, and those residing in #10 Downing Street. Don't ya think?
Absolutely. Tag the lot of them. They think profiling is fine? Let's start with them.
Do away with all state surveillance by destroying the state and replacing it with a newer, better form of gubbamint. As long as the tools exist, someone in gubbamint will use them, even if in secret. Once they use them, they will want to use them more and add more tools. Gubbamint is a serious problem. Best to deal with the gubbamint as brutally as it deals with you.
I am not a fan either. My own take is localism. Same problem but a more manageable scale. The local town hall is burn downable after all.
Even the halls of the mighty may be assailed. Never sell yourself short.
You can't destroy government and you can't change human nature. Now what?
You CAN destroy gubbamint and you CAN change your nature. There you go.
True, you can destroy one government and another will take its place, and become corrupt in its time. Human nature has not changed within the bounds of recorded history, which is why the Greek philosophers remain relevant.
Ok…it’s your expectations that are the problem here: where is it written that gubbamint will never go corrupt? Corruption is like cockroach infestations…you spray, get most of ‘em, eventually they come back. You spray again. That is how it works with gubbamint. You revolt, set up a new one, it rots in time, it gets oppressive, you revolt, etc. It’s just time to spray for the political roaches, that’s all. They’ll come back; it’s what they do. The future will deal with that problem. Our problem is right now, and brother! do we need to spray!
As far as changing human nature: you are wrong there too. Human beans are now quantitatively less violent than at any time in recorded History. We are more prosperous than any previous point in History. Human nature CAN change. We have to change our environment and our technology to change us, but it obviously works. We broke the hunter-gatherer cycles with agrarian revolution, we broke the farming cycles with the industrial revolution, we are breaking the industrial cycles with hyper-efficient digital tech. With the breaking of each cycle, we alter the culture that went with it. We are improving morally all the time. Consider how violent a medieval knight or samurai was…don’t bow low enough quickly enough and you get clobbered. Now, no one does that any more. Less violent, more reasoned.
yep. child mutilation and sterilization is a giant step up.
Cheers.
Yeah…not a good response…take the longer view.
We ended our cruise through coastal Norway, Shetland, and Orkney in London. After a lovely river cruise which highlighted the bridges, landmarks and multi million pound apartments along the Thames I was shocked by the amount of graffiti everywhere in what were obviously not poor areas if the homes and cars were any indication. Our taxi ride to the V&A and our trip next day to the airport was depressing and gritty. Every available surface was covered. The worst areas of Philadelphia, my own native city, do not compare in terms of graffiti.
It is shocking, and it is getting worse. The genie is definitely out of the bottle. A sign of steep decline.
As long as Banksy, your national treasure, is somehow exempted.
As long as the graffttists are defacing Jew socialist brutalist architecture with something reasonably organic, colorful and complex, I say let them have it, it's an improvement. They should not however be allowed to deface historic buildings.
Agree 100% about ubiquitous surveillance that is selectively enforced only against people who resist the regime. I feel bad for you Britbongs but know we are only a couple of steps behind you, and the U.S. and we will be fully caught up on the Orwellian society if we "elect" the cackling witch.
Spiff makes a good point and his photos (though spectacular) show how degraded, bored, and stupid people are.
As I understand it, Mr. Raven, it is fine to deface Jewish homes and neighborhoods. Thiis is how it begins and you are part of the problem.
Red herring much as is the typical tactic of your tribe?
I am afraid that most of the electorate are too poorly educated to realize how much of a difference the first amendment makes and why it needs to be defended against the ignorant and apathetic. Advertisements during football games, about the only broadcast media people actually watch, showing what is happening in England now and why it can’t happen here, at least while we have it, would be a good idea.
People keep moving to red states from blue states and then voting to bring all the things they ran away from into the red states. They changed Colorado this way and are working on Arizona and Texas. The future of the first amendment is bleak if people don’t wake up.