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Gwyneth's avatar

β€œHe is a sorry pilot who lets the waves wring his rudder from his grasp, who leaves the sails to fly loose, and abandons the ship to the storm: but he who boldly grasps the helm and clings to it until the sea closes over him, deserves praise even though he be shipwrecked.”

- Seneca, Stoic Philosopher

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Avtomat01's avatar

I'm pessimistic about that. Most will not. They will continue into late adulthood, impotantly prepared for pharma to sell them on the idea of a chem imbalance, and have insurance pay for tweaks for "stress" and "well being". Basically Soma but it doesnt work.The longer they dont change the less chance they will.

Particularly now that quality, instantly generated cinema will soon be available to everyone cheaply, producing anything the imagination desires. The phone can then act as a kind of eye/ear dildo.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Indeed, many will succumb. Particularly next-gen entertainment which will be more immersive.

There is a scene in Inception where there is a room with people lying in cots, completely lost to their hallucinations which are more real to them than reality. That could be many people's future.

But not everyone. Those who will actually build the future won't be lost to their impulses.

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Emer Condit's avatar

β€œ Society reflects us and our choices. It shows our appetites, and the view can be unflattering. We avoid the pain of this realization by looking outside of ourselves.”

My goodness, this is painfully true. 🫀

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

We all do it. But we are society. It is easy to point fingers. Women, gays, foreigners. But are we really working to improve things ourselves?

My worry is Western nations are declining because people want more government, more help, more welfare and all the rest. An erosion of independence and resilience.

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Emer Condit's avatar

I guess it boils down to this:

β€œBad times, hard times - this is what people keep saying; but let us live well and times shall be good. We are the times. Such as we are, such are the times.”

- Saint Augustine of Hippo

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Will Martin's avatar

Then why haven't the Strong Men Killed Everyone Alive so that No More Hard Times Ever Happen Again?

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

That seems a rather bleak interpretation of the idea. And anyway, the agreed wisdom is a threshold has to be met before the strong men do their thing.

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Will Martin's avatar

The Bleak Interpretation Is Right And You Know it, Spiff.

Fuck the agreed wisdom, the Strong Men are Retards who Don't Think Ahead.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Their time will come.

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Will Martin's avatar

What kind of bullshit simp are you where you stick up for Gays and Foreigners?

Lol, Claremont Institute BUTTFAGGOT.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Lol. No one is sticking up for anyone. We just shouldn't pretend they are the cause of our downfall.

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Will Martin's avatar

They are the cause of our downfall, Brezhnen. Just like you being a Claremont Institute BUTTFAGGOT.

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Jeannie's avatar

My, you seem like a charming fellow. Nice impression you leave of yourself.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Indeed. Not sure what makes Will tick. I am convinced it is an act.

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Jeannie's avatar

He's an educated loser, who alienates people to the extent that he keeps losing more so he reverts to "I don't give a ****, and blames everything he can think of but his own lazy nihilism.

At this point, his only way to get attention or money is to keep doubling down on this destructive path. He trolls to attract followers, especially Arian brotherhood types, and thinks a lot about suicide.

We should pray for him, I mean that sincerely.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I can' t work out what he is all about or why he even visits here.

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Will Martin's avatar

Incorrect you BAPTard Bitch. Take your AI analyzed takes and Sock account and fuck off with it. I don't get money at all, nobody gives me any attention anyways. I'm not a nihilist, that doesn't go far enough.

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Will Martin's avatar

It's not an act. You're just a BAPTard. Certain sections of the online right have pissed me off to the point of Eternal Retard War.

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Will Martin's avatar

Are you really an old lady or just a BAPTard sock account?

Your Reads And Likes Are Public You Retard.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Heartbreaking moment yesterday. A dad took his young daughter to a fantastic heritage-themed restaurant. He then ignored her as he played with his phone. She looked around, confused, trying to engage, but clearly knowing he was not to be disturbed.

When these addictions can override the father-daughter bond, there is almost no hope left.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

There is always hope, although I too find this particular aspect disturbing. I often see mothers with toddlers, the kid looking for attention while the mother scrolls on her device. You can see the disconnect right there.

Not everyone makes it. Perhaps it is a cosmic test after all.

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Will Martin's avatar

There has never been any hope. You're Retarded. Nobody Makes It.

If it's a Cosmic Test, then it's proctored by Demons who laugh at our Torment.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Perhaps they are. Or maybe they are just laughing at some of us.

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Will Martin's avatar

Nah, it's all of us. You included, you Claremont Institute BUTTFAGGOT.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

What is this institute you keep touting. I have never heard of it.

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Will Martin's avatar

Glownigger, you know; stop being obtuse. You know because You Read Ped Gold.

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Avtomat01's avatar

The way explained it to my childen is when you use the phone, dont just look at the phone, look at yourself looking at the phone. There should be a purpose for its use that ties to our life and world we inhabit. And if its purely for entertainment... state that too. There's nothing bad about that except excess and also what we are being entertained BY in some cases. Let it augment our lives, not be an escape, entanglement, or obsession. Always be aware... what Im I doing here and why? For example In this moment Im drinking a coffee and sharing thoughts with others about the negative aspects of the internet. Then its off and I go do yardwork.

Many genetic lines will not survive the internet. The internet is not going away; they are.

Like moths around a light, perpetually licking their mental lollipops, they slowly die.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I agree. It is a kind of cosmic test. I naturally ration my use of it and I am now using my phone less and less. I know others are similar.

But many are lost. They have to find their way out of the labytirth themselves.

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Adam PT's avatar

Nodded along to all of that. Great work, Spiff.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Thanks. Glad you liked 😎

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Rikard's avatar

Read "Will to Power" is my recommendation. Preferably in German. And "Beyond Good and Evil" too for good measure.

For added hilarity, do it in public where the slave-souled can see you doing it.

Why? Because it forces upon them the choice: to realise and object to that they have been domesticated into slave-creatures, or to defend having been made into slave-creatures.

And don't forget that Kraft and Macht in German are two different things, oft confused when translated to English. Kraft is something you may simply have by existing: the dog hunting is expressing Kraft; Macht is something you must/may/can seek consciously by continously over-oming your self (and your self).

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"Over ninety percent of heroin addicts kick the habit solo, with no help or special programmes."

Suggestion: change the above to read:

"Over ninety percent of heroin addicts who manage to kick the habit do it solo, with no help or special programmes."

If that is what you meant? To me, who is not a native speaker, the original version reads as if you mean to say 90% of heroin addicts manage to kick the habit, which is quite far off the mark (I think it may be the reverse, if not even lower than 10%).

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Indeed. Perhaps it is confusing. Now I am not sure if it was 90 percent of the whole, or only 90 percent of those who try. Lol. That's what happens when you rely on memory.

As for Nietzsche, I suspect most would have no idea who he is. And nor would many of them agonize over their slave status. I think most are quite comfortable with it.

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Will Martin's avatar

Neecher is a BUTTFAGGOT, Schopenhauer had it right, but he didn't go far enough.

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Rikard's avatar

I'm not basing my claim on any science I can bring up without going searching (don't trust AI to do it, not anymore than I trust its maker) for records, but in my personal experience having known several heroin addicts all of whom died before age 35 except two, who made it and did so under their own power, well... 1/20 breaks the habit I'd say.

The rest either die for some drug-related reason or other: diseases, infections, fights, accidents and all the efforts of the Social Services just prolong the end.

It's harsh, but with addicts it's either lock'em up in a Cold Turkey-kolchos for years or Californication.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Changed the wording. I suspect you are right. It must be those who succeed, not those who are addicted.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

"Echoing this mentality, many on the dissident right are hung up on the Jews who get blamed for everything that befalls us. This preoccupation even has its own monicker, the JQ; the Jewish Question. Every calamity we face, from mass immigration to falling birthrates, is attributed to a cabal of scheming Jews, or at least some facsimile of them."

I both agree and disagree with what you've said here, SS.

I've been learning about the disproportionate amount of power held by Jews in modern society (and historically) for a number of years, so I'm very aware of organized Jewry's role in both mass immigration and falling birthrates - and myriad other issues. Recognizing these kinds of things requires critical thinking skills, pattern recognition, and a willingness to be unpopular.

(Incidentally, I think you have all three of these characteristics, so I will be interested to how your views on the "JQ" evolve over time.)

That being said, I do wholeheartedly agree with you that it's way too easy to just slide into a position of "blaming the Jew" all the time. I see the nefarious Jewish machinations we are exposed to as temptations - on a personal level at least, there is nothing forcing us to succumb. Like all the negative forces with which we have to contend, they can be seen as a kind of "filter" or evolutionary selective force.

Not all of us will survive the times we are living through. But those of us who make it out the other side will be stronger for it.

Great article. Thank you.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I suspect we are in broad agreement.

Your latter point, that we must be careful not to scapegoat, is important. The intellectual laziness it encourages tends to be fatal. That is my concern with some of the commentary around the JQ; it becomes the answer to everything, including the mistakes we ourselves make, which in turn discourages the efforts needed to improve.

However, we should not ignore the enemy at the gate either. I would extend this to any identifiable group who work against our interests. Academics, for example have a more than negligible effect and need to be tackled. The traditional media seem intent on destroying Western culture. Feminists, Antifa, Soros-funded hordes etc. We should confront them all, and that begins with an honest evaluation of their contribution to our problems.

I would include ethnic and cultural differences too. Currently taboo, but that seems to be changing. Some groups are inherently incompatible with others. We, for example, do not belong in Saudi Arabia except perhaps as temporary guests. We readily accept this and I don't think it will be long before this is extended to others within our midst. We will shine a light on them and ask if they truly belong here.

I do agree we are surrounded by temptation. But it is always a filter, and the antidote is always discipline. As you say, not everyone will make it. Interesting times ahead.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

"A successful society is populated with high agency people. Indeed, this is traditionally what differentiated the liberal West from the rest of the world, the capacity to self-regulate while the world needed elaborate rituals and social rules we ridiculed."

And this is another area we agree on. I used to think we needed to "help" people in non-Western countries who were living under what I thought of as tyrannical regimes.

Now that I am seeing how the people from these countries behave once they are in a society that is more (or at least was traditionally) more "internally" regulated, I understand why the rules in the countries they come from are so harshly ruled.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Time horizons, and even the concept of time itself, exists on a spectrum. We are guilty of projecting our European ways on to the world. This is all the more confusing as it largely works with North East Asians. As for everyone else, not so much.

Most of the world understands its denizens need to occasionally see very harsh punishment doled out to transgressors or they don't get it.

Much of the world needs external pressure and will never internalize any kind of regulatory framework. Some of the vibrancy being visited upon us just assume unchaperoned women and girls are fair game. There is no malice. Their behaviour is modified by consequences, not the rights of the victim. If they can expect a beating or a swift death, they don't do it.

Alas, Western dogooders cannot see past their blank slate indoctrination. Although our increasing diversity is educating them.

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Broken Gears's avatar

Amen brother.

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Jeannie's avatar

Spot on as usual, Spiff!

Have you ever read Benjamin Franklin's autobiography? It's very short, because it was actually notes written for his son during his early life. The part about when he was working on his character development is simply amazing.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I have certainly read about his approach. It is amazing. The self-awareness especially and his willingness to tackle his shortcomings.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

> We-posting

OK, Queen Victoria.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

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Isaiah Antares's avatar

I suspect he's referring to your use of the "royal we".

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

No doubt.

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Leaf and Stream's avatar

I was watching a YT blog by this Scottish bloke who lives in Moscow at the moment, and he took the viewer on a walking tour (unedited) around his home neighbourhood on a warm Summer's evening. As I watched the streets, shops, cafes and people go by, I got a feeling there was something alien, strange but distantly familiar about what I was seeing. Then I twigged, and realised that everybody looked just healthy, fit and agile.

In the whole half hour of live filming, there was not a single very overweight individual. My wife said "Oh, blimey, yes that's what looks retro about it." Sure enough, a couple of minutes later, the narrator pointed out the same thing. Now, I wouldn't put it down to any single factor, as I don't know of course. But there wee plenty of fast-food outlets alongside the smart restaurants, so non-availability of temptation can't be a factor. I

would put a fiver on something like "self respect" or "pride in appearance", old-fashioned notions like that, as being in there. Which of course have all but disappeared from Western civ due to poisonous ideas like "body positivity" and "self-love" and all the rest of the self-deceit gladly accepted by the majority as it's convenient and painless to do so.

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Will Martin's avatar

Lol, what kind of bullshittery is this, Spiff?

There is no future left to build. There is only Eternal Misery. You're never getting Re-Enchantment to happen, you're never getting anything else.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

I bet we do πŸ€“

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Will Martin's avatar

No, you don't.

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